Marvin Testifies

In which Marvin reveals issues he has with the Love in Action program and highlights the different approach he will take in his fledgling ministry.

Marvin also shares his Pastor’s Coming Out Day surprise.

He is still looking for an appropriate name for his ex-gay program. Suggestions?

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  1. Anonymous on October 13, 2006 at 12:37 am


    They made you testify/witness so soon after your LIA experience?

    And then they asked you to testify without asking you first?

    Not everyone who has struggles is called upon to share it in front of the congregation…

  2. Nillo on October 13, 2006 at 1:17 am

    Glad you are back from hiatus, Mr. M.

  3. Joe G. on October 14, 2006 at 3:36 am


    I’m glad to hear you be honest about the continued struggles and feelings that you have. Good for you!

    He is still looking for an appropriate name for his ex-gay program. Suggestions?

    “Sort of Truth ministries”.

  4. Bruce Garrett on October 14, 2006 at 9:20 pm

    I’m a tad surprised to hear that Love In Action wasn’t all that spiritual. I understood there were psychological aspects to it, but I’d always assumed they were leavened with a big does of religiosity. Certainly that was the impression I got reading the Refuge rule book that was posted online a while back. I’ve heard less biblical citations in Sunday sermons and I went to a Baptist church.

  5. Peterson Toscano on October 15, 2006 at 5:16 pm

    Bruce, well you’d be surprise by how little Bible and prayer we got at LIA. And from what I hear from recent participants, it is not much different.

    They put lots of stock in the group sessions, the introductions, writing moral inventories, the 12-steps, but for folks coming from a strong church background like Marvin and others I’ve known, they find the experience strangely alienating spiritually.

    They BASE what they teach on Bible principles, but they spend very little time in prayer, worship or Bible study.

  6. Liadan on October 17, 2006 at 7:23 am

    Over the Rainbow Ministries?

    As in “we are SO over the rainbow. It’s totally last year.”

  7. Peterson Toscano on October 17, 2006 at 1:33 pm

    “Over the Rainbow Ministries”
    Perfection, I love it!

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