Marvin Takes on Satan (and JJ)

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    Bob Painter on April 7, 2006 at 6:14 pm

    Marvin, I challenge you on your defensive posture with J.J. How unlike you to be so abrasive! I didn’t hear many feelings from you–just a lot of nasty comments to J.J.

    Have you considered, Marvin, that the old self you must die to is the dishonest one that attempts to be someone he’s not–namely a heterosexual? How difficult is it to crucify yourself with Christ if you take the easy road of conforming to the patterns of this world, that being the pattern of heterosexual bigotry? I find it much harder to live for Christ as a gay man because the church as a whole–as in Christ’s own days here on this earth–are so hostile toward my witness.

    J.J., thank you for calling Marvin’s dark ways (claiming to be something he clearly is not) into the light…You are a good person, and God loves you just as you are…

    BOB

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    Jeannette on April 7, 2006 at 11:48 pm

    Someone needs to tell Marvin that JJ’s a woman. ^_^ That aside, I agree with bob p a lot. This was the nastiest I think I’ve heard Marvin be.

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    Joe G. on April 8, 2006 at 4:57 pm

    Marvin,

    I must agree with Bob P. and Jeannette – you are so angry in this post. OUCH!

    Well, rest assured that I continue to pray for you…

    Have you considered, Marvin, that the old self you must die to is the dishonest one that attempts to be someone he’s not–namely a heterosexual? How difficult is it to crucify yourself with Christ if you take the easy road of conforming to the patterns of this world, that being the pattern of heterosexual bigotry?

    Hmm, I like this. Never thought of it in such terms before!

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    belledame222 on April 8, 2006 at 9:53 pm

    Oh, my goodness. That is glorious stuff. Thank you.

    I gotta say, Marvin seems a lot more “real” than say Stephen Bennett (not to mention more likeable).

    I dunno what that says, though, or about whom.

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    belledame222 on April 8, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    (can we set up a dialogue between Marvin and Burray Hill? a debate, perhaps? that would be kick-ass)

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    belledame222 on April 8, 2006 at 9:55 pm

    uh that would be Murray Hill. perhaps with a cold.

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    Peterson Toscano on April 8, 2006 at 10:42 pm

    Wow, Joe, that is a very cool way of putting it, in fact, liberating.

    —-

    I have a question for all of you…should I show Marvin your comments or just let him cool off? I normally fax him comments once every few days, but I worry that he might not be ready to hear what you have to say. What do you think?

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    Peterson Toscano on April 8, 2006 at 10:47 pm

    belledame222, good to see you! Murray Hill, huh? Hmmm, the only Murray Hill I know is a NYC neighborhood. Tell who is this Murray Hill you speak of?

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    Liadan on April 9, 2006 at 2:49 am

    It seems to me like maybe Marvin reacted defensively and might later reconsider his position, or at least his attitude. Most people have shot off at the mouth and regretted it later at least once in their lives.

    Perhaps Marvin just needs some time to consider why he reacted so harshly to what was really a fairly innocuous comment.

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    belledame222 on April 9, 2006 at 6:38 pm

    http://www.mrmurrayhill.com/

    He is a fine upstanding member of the community, and, although not gay himself, has been a strong voice for the lgbt people.

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    belledame222 on April 9, 2006 at 6:43 pm

    …specifically, thinking of him because his previous run for mayor proves that he would be a good choice for a debate.

    http://www.dyxploitation.nu/issue7/murray1.html

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    Joe G. on April 11, 2006 at 12:05 am

    Peterson,

    Just to clarify, the part of my previous post in italics was a quote from Bob P.’s original post. It was his thoughts, and I agree – very original way of seeing the issues involved. Thanks, Bob P.!